diff --git a/tmdev.sh b/tmdev.sh
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+#!/bin/bash
+######################################
+# tmux start script for dev projects #
+# author eric at ewpt3ch dot com     #
+######################################
+
+# usage: dev.sh session
+
+# check for a session
+if [[ -z $1 ]]; then
+  echo -e "you need to name the session ie dev.sh \e[3msession"
+  exit
+fi
+
+session=$1
+
+# check if we're in a tmux session, prevent nesting
+if [[ "$TMUX" != "" ]]; then
+  echo -e "Error: cannot nest sessions \e[3meventualy want to detach and start new"
+  exit
+fi
+
+# check if session by session already exists
+if (tmux has-session -t ${session} 2> /dev/null); then
+  echo -e "${session} already exists"
+  exit
+fi
+
+# not in a session not session already name session
+# so lets create it
+
+tmux new-session -d -s "${session}" -n "edit"
+tmux split-window -v -p 20 -t "${session}"
+tmux send-keys -t "${session}:1.1" "vim" C-m
+tmux new-window -n "servers" -t "${session}"
+tmux split-window -v -t "${session}:2"
+tmux new-window -n "scratch" -t "${session}"
+tmux send-keys -t "${session}:3.1" "git status" C-m
+
+# finally attach to the new session
+tmux attach-session -t "${session}"
diff --git a/tmsys.sh b/tmsys.sh
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+#!/bin/bash
+##################################
+# tmux start script for system   #
+# author eric at ewpt3ch dot com #
+##################################
+
+# usage: system.sh 
+
+# check if we're in a tmux session, prevent nesting
+if [[ "$TMUX" != "" ]]; then
+  echo -e "Error: cannot nest sessions \e[3meventualy want to detach and start new"
+  exit
+fi
+
+session="system"
+
+# check if system session already exists
+if (tmux has-session -t ${session} 2> /dev/null); then
+  echo -e "${session} already exists"
+  exit
+fi
+
+# not in a session not session already name session
+# so lets create it
+
+cd "${HOME}"
+tmux new-session -d -s "${session}" -n "htop"
+tmux split-window -v -p 20 -t "${session}"
+tmux send-keys -t "${session}:1.1" "htop" C-m
+tmux send-keys -t "${session}:1.2" "pacupg" C-m
+tmux new-window -n "journal" -t "${session}"
+tmux split-window -v -p 30 -t "${session}:2"
+tmux send-keys -t "${session}:2.1" "journalctl -f" C-m
+tmux new-window -n "scratch" -t "${session}"
+
+# finally attach to the new session
+tmux attach-session -t "${session}"